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REGINA v. LOGAN.

kept lifting the revolver up and down from his side, but he did not use it. We went as far as Hing Keo's.

Were you on or near the bridge together onse or more than once that morning?-Only once.

Did you see any Chinese woman near the pri #oner's house asking him to cure her f-That was after we came back. After we went to Hing Kee's we returned to Mr. Logan's house. When we got back there I did not see Neilson still there.

The whole of that morning did you see Neilsen with any firearms ?-No.

Did you yourself at any timo that morning use firearms -No.

When you got back to the prisoner's house from Hing Kee's what happened?When we got to Mr. Logan's house I saw an old women at the door.

Was there anything the matter with her that you saw 7-She said she was wounded, and I think she was wounded in the left shoulder. She said some people told her that she had been wounded by Mr. Logan; she was telling this in Chinese to a Chinese woman in the house. - Mrs. Logan (the Chinese woman) said to Mr. Logan that the woman had been wounded by. Euglish. Mrs. Logan said nothing else. Mr. Logan said She may have been wounded somewhere else; tell her to go away."

Did he do anything to her; did she go away? -I do not know, both I and Mr. Logan went into the house.

Did anything else happen there while the woman was there?-No.

any more.

Wero there any Chinese about while the woman was speaking?There were a few.

When you went into the house what happened? -We sat down and the two revolvers were put upon the table. I picked up the white-handled re- volver, and I asked Mr. Logan if I could draw the charges because it was not necessary to use them He said "yes." I took the revolver in my hand and I tried to open it by the back spring, but I could not. I asked Mr. Logan then if I might fire it off into a pond behind his house. He said "yes," and I went to the back verandah and Mr. Logan came and stood beside me and I fired off I think five shots from the revolver. Then I handed the revolver to Mr. Logan, who laid it on the table. Then he said afterwards-"I must load it again in case they attack me again after you are gone," and he did so. After you got into the house did you or the prisoner tire any barrels of the black revolver?

No.

Was it reloaded by the prisoner in your pre- sence ?-No.

Not counting the shots you fired into the pond how many shots did you hear P-I only heard one, when Mr. Logan fired in the street.

Can you give us any idea of how the woma was wounded?-I do not know.

When you got near the prisoner's house first there was a ob east and west of it? Yes, on both sides.

What chased away the mob to the west? You have said you chased those to the cast.-I do not know, I was at the east all the time.

Are you quite sure it was a revolver tho pri- soner had in his hand ?-Yes it was the black revolver; he fired with it.

You have told us that two or three times you tried to persuade the prisoner not to make use of firearms ?—Yes.

Then you did not think there was any danger of your lives 2-It was dangerous at first when the mob were throwing stones, but then they ran.

When he was on bridge did you think so?- I thought it dangerous to fire, and I told him not to do so.

Did you think at the time there was any ne. cessity for firing?

Mr. Wise objected to the question:

His Lordship-That is not a proper question. Ask him what they were doing and let the jury draw their inference.

Mr. Francis-What was the crowd doing when he fired -They were running away.

Was any one attacking you?-No, they were not attacking him nor me; they were singing out "ta."

Was there any attack made on the house while you were in it ? No.

Do you remember clearly everything that pas. sed that day, or not?-I remember nearly every. thing that happened.

How long was it after you left Neilsen's house at half-past six that you went to Hing Kee's P-I think it was about a quarter to seven.

Do you remember seeing the Chinese boy or the Chinese woman you call Mrs. Logan that morning -She was there when I saw the old woman. I did not see the black revolver loaded by auyone,

Did the prisoner go on the bridge more than once I did not see him more than once.

Could he bave gone on the bridge before six o'clock P-I cannot say. I ought to have seen him if he had because he must have gone past mo.

Do you recollect seeing a Parsee and were you and Lozau talking to him that morning on the bridge P-No.

Have you any recollection of a dog being struck in the street P-No.

Was the prisoner's door open or shut when you first arrived P-I don't recollect. I have no recollection while I was in the street of hearing anyone asking what was the matter. There are other Europeans living in the same street close to the prisonor's house. Logan did not go away

REGINA v. LOGAN.

in to the eastward after speaking to the old woman; he went right upstairs.

Can you tell us if there were any stones or bricks inside the prisoner's house P-There were some stones in there, but I don't know how they got there. Logan's front door opens into sn empty room. The greater part of the time since the 12th Angust I have been in prison here, in the saune cell with Neilsen and the prisoner at first, and wheu Neilsen went away, Logan and I were together.

Cross-examined by Mr. Wise-Did you not say you did not see how the prisoner got the revolver ?

Witness--Yes. I did not see him load it. I went on duty on the Kiang Ping, at eight o'clock on Saturday morning, and remained there till twelve that night.

Have you any idea of what Neilson was strug. gling with Chinese about ?-No, bat I have been told by Chinese that he kicked a dog. I am quite sure Neilsen had a blue coat and trousers

on.

Did you see the prisoner strike any coolies with a stick that morning?-No.

Show me how Logan used this revolver that morning.

Witness showed, pointing the revolver slightly upwards from the level of his face.

Did Logan kneel down ?--No.

Are you sure? Yes. Logan said nothing about frightening the Chinese when he said they were firing at him, I left Neilson at Logan's house, and when I came back from Hing Kee's he was goue.

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Witness-He went towards the bridge, but I did not see him go beyond Matsen's house.

How did Mr. Logan get the watchmen into trouble 2-Some Chinese broke into his house about a week before and stole things and then Mr. Logan reported it and got the watchmen into trouble,

A juryman-Do you'known any of those watch. men who got into trouble?

Witness-No.

Did you go on board the Kiang Ping at eight in the morning, and remain till twelve at night ? Yes we board at Macao, and come up with her. Nothing is given us to eat on board.

His Lordship-Then why do you not take something? Have you any firearms in your house?

Witness-No.

Had Neilson any ?-I do not know.

Had the prisoner any besides those revolvers ? I did not see any.

Did you see any other firearm in the street that day --No.

Did you not hear more than one report -No. Mr. Theodore Bliss Cunningham said-I amı an American subject, of the firm of Messrs. Russell & Co., and am Vice Consal for Sweden and Norway. The man Neilson was released here, and has gone to Shanghai. I have not seen him here since. I was present in court here with Dr. Hance during the preliminary investiga- tion. I saw a revolver very like the black one produced at that examination. I put a little bit of silk handkerchief into the muzzle of it at the time, and the result was it was blackened, and I concinded from that the pistol had been fired since it had been cleared.

Mr. Francis-Can you say whether it bad boen recently fired or not. P

Witness-I could not form an opinion, not be.

How long were you going from the bridge to Hing Kee's and back ?-About ten minutes.

You say there was a mob to the east and a mob to the west. Can you guess how that mob was caused P-I don't know, but when we went upstairs we were talking the mattering sufficiently acquainted to know whether it over, I said, "There will be some trouble about was a fortui ht or three weeks. I should say this" and Logan said, I cannot help it; the the mark made on the handkerchief was the result Chinese bave boon breaking into my house, and of the pistol having been fired, not rust. I stolen my property, and now they commence to examined the white-handled pistol with about a stone me." He also said "It is through those similar result. [Witness produced the handker. watchmen, because I have got them into trouble." chief and showed the marks]. The revolvers were

Where was Neilsen when you were first in the fully loaded that day, the bongo 7-He was with the crowd to the west.

Cross-examined by Mr. Wise-Tho prelim- You say when the weapon was fired the Chi-inary examination before the Consul lasted nese were running away; what was it for ? was several days. I do not recollect the date Neilsen it because they saw the weapon -I suppose went to Shanghai.

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When you saw this orowd collecting were you frightened at Grat -Yes, I was frightened at first.

Was anyone hit besides yourself in this stone throwing ?-Mr. Neilsen was hit.

Re-examined by the Crown Advocate. Did Neilson go towards the bridge that day?

Mr. Wise said he wished to know it, and the matter beiaz looked up, it was found Neilson was called as a witness at the preliminary hearing on the 31st August, and left Canton early in September.

Sit Ming Kuk, being sworn as a Christian, said in English-I am a Chinese subject, and am an older iu Nam Ngon-street, where I have

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